Dermal melasma

Dermal melasma is often resistant to treatment with a success rate of 25%, as compared to superficial forms of melasma with a hit rate of 85%. We combine pigment correctors, vascular modulators as well as lasers in ‘off-label’ settings to help reduce melasma pigmentation. Dermal melasma can take 6 to 12 months to respond to treatment. It is not easy to treat, & even harder to understand. Read more. 

Recovery

1-2 days

Results

Variable

Treatment Time

5-15 minutes

Aftercare

SPF + pigment correctors

Treatment science score

Dermal melasma treatment

  • Up to 20% of melasma can be resistant to medical therapy
  • Dermal or deep melasma is harder to shift compared to superficial melasma
  • Medical management entails vascular modulators & prescription topicals.
  • Treatment options include specific non-ablative lasers & off label pico lasers
  • Treatments are aimed at rebuilding the deeper structure of skin
  • It often takes 6 to 12 months or longer for improvements to be seen
  • Not all cases respond to laser

The primary aim of dermal melasma treatment is to remodel the deeper layers of skin. This often takes 12 to 18 months to achieve. Lasers & injectables provide the best methods to achieve this.

What is dermal melasma?

Dermal melasma refers to deep pigmentation that lies below the layer of skin called the epidermis. Contrary to belief, most forms of melasma are mixed; namely epidermal & dermal. Dermal melasma refers to when the majority of pigment is located in the dermis. It has special significance as you will find out shortly. 

do i have melasma

Why is it harder to treat?

As pigmentation is deep, this form of melasma is-

  1. Out of reach to superficial lasers & chemical peels such as Dermelan & Cosmelan. 
  2. Deep pigment requires your immune system to carry away pigment, as compared to superficial pigmentation that can be exfoliated. 
  3. Dermal melasma requires special lasers in particular wavelengths to target deep pigmentation. Not all lasers are capable of penetrating into the deeper layers of skin. 
  4. Dermal melasma requires remodeling of the dermis. This often takes months to years to achieve.

dermal melasma treatment

How do I know if I have dermal melasma?

Diagnosis is tricky, so be guided by your dermatologist. Deep dermal melasma can be diagnosed via 3 ways-

Clinically: a keen eye can pick the difference between mixed & primarily dermal melasma. The latter is gray, the form is brown-gray, whilst primarily epidermal melasma is brown. 

Dermatoscopically: is the best way to diagnose dermal pigmentation. Gray dots & pigment dropout can be seen with a 10X polarizing microscope. 

Woods light examination: is an old fashioned method, blue light highlights superficial pigment, deeper pigment is not visible. 

Biopsy: is the last line, but is super useful to exclude exogenous pigment-ochronosis. 

Your clinician should not label you as dermal melasma unless the above criteria are met as superficial melasma can also be resistant to treatment. 

what is dermal melasma

What is the difference between resistant melasma & dermal melasma?

It is complex, but- dermal melasma is usually resistant to treatment, whilst mixed melasma can also be resistant to treatment. Confused? Read more. 

Factors that may contribute to ‘resistance’ (as opposed to true dermal melasma) include- 

  1. Failure to initiate medical therapy for melasma. Medical therapy is provided by a dermatologist. This includes prescription topicals & systemics as well as tailored peeling or laser programs. 
  2. Sun protection. This is the cornerstone of melasma management. Correct sun protection, correct sunscreen, correct application amount & frequency is pivotal to managing melasma. This is the biggest factor overlooked by patients. 
  3. Accidental sun exposure. The sensitivity of melasma is such that the smallest amount of light can flare up pigment. 10 minutes of unprotected exposure can reverse  vigilance for the whole month. 
  4. Heat & other sources of IR or infrared radiation. Especially in cooks, both occupation & domestic. Other sources include saunas & hot yoga. 
  5. Inability to initiate, comply or tolerate medical therapy. This entails correct topical use as well as other adjunctive therapy. One can only lead a horse to water. 

Dermal melasma is often resistant to treatment, however the clinician should NOT label it as ‘dermal’ unless the depth of pigmentation is known. 

melasma on cheeks

Your clinician will guide you through your specific protocol & pigment corrector. This only applies to potentially irritating agents, it is not a blanket guide for all topicals/pigment correctors 
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Still sensitive, even if short contact? 
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1️⃣Use half the amount (dilute in moisturizer) 
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2️⃣ moisturiser before & after
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3️⃣Titrate use, ie. skip a day….or three
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4️⃣Test spot for allergy (very rare, skin irritation more common). Use a tiny amount, apply to the inner arm, photograph 📸the reaction taking note of the time it takes to develop irritation. Show this to your treating clinician to interpret & they will guide you. Irritation is different from allergic reactions💯
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👉🙏🏼Addition of topicals will be guided by your treating clinician, based upon your skin sensitivity, current topical use & treatment (peels vs lasers). Timing is important 
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The Melasma Clinic
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
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#themelasmaclinic #melasma #dermatologistsydney

Your clinician will guide you through your specific protocol & pigment corrector. This only applies to potentially irritating agents, it is not a blanket guide for all topicals/pigment correctors
.
Still sensitive, even if short contact?
.
1️⃣Use half the amount (dilute in moisturizer)
.
2️⃣ moisturiser before & after
.
3️⃣Titrate use, ie. skip a day….or three
.
4️⃣Test spot for allergy (very rare, skin irritation more common). Use a tiny amount, apply to the inner arm, photograph 📸the reaction taking note of the time it takes to develop irritation. Show this to your treating clinician to interpret & they will guide you. Irritation is different from allergic reactions💯
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👉🙏🏼Addition of topicals will be guided by your treating clinician, based upon your skin sensitivity, current topical use & treatment (peels vs lasers). Timing is important
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The Melasma Clinic
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
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#themelasmaclinic #melasma #dermatologistsydney
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Dr Vee Mang is an Australian trained physician with extensive experience in skin, having worked in the field of dermatology. She’s a cosmetic physician who works with Dr Van Park & Dr Davin Lim in Woollahra, Sydney
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👉Her interests: Pigmentation, neurotoxin, acne management, anti-aging
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📖Bookings: Open for consultation, send your expression of interest at our website, melasmaclinic.com.au Yes, an expression of interest is required for the Sydney clinic. 
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The Melasma Clinic
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
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#themelasmaclinic #melasma

Dr Vee Mang is an Australian trained physician with extensive experience in skin, having worked in the field of dermatology. She’s a cosmetic physician who works with Dr Van Park & Dr Davin Lim in Woollahra, Sydney
.
👉Her interests: Pigmentation, neurotoxin, acne management, anti-aging
.
📖Bookings: Open for consultation, send your expression of interest at our website, melasmaclinic.com.au Yes, an expression of interest is required for the Sydney clinic.
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The Melasma Clinic
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
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#themelasmaclinic #melasma
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Dr Van Park is the co-founder of The Melasma Clinic. She’s a key opinion leader in the field of aesthetic injectables with her innovative & novel injection techniques with neuromodulators & soft tissue injectables
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👉Rumor has it that Davin Lim fixed her melasma & hence why she founded this clinic. 
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📖Bookings: She’s closed her books, but occasional consults may arise 
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The Melasma Clinic
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
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#themelasmaclinic #drvanpark #dvp #clinicdvp #cosmeticphysician

Dr Van Park is the co-founder of The Melasma Clinic. She’s a key opinion leader in the field of aesthetic injectables with her innovative & novel injection techniques with neuromodulators & soft tissue injectables
.
👉Rumor has it that Davin Lim fixed her melasma & hence why she founded this clinic.
.
📖Bookings: She’s closed her books, but occasional consults may arise
.
The Melasma Clinic
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
.
#themelasmaclinic #drvanpark #dvp #clinicdvp #cosmeticphysician
...

Davin Lim is a technician & co-founder. He comes up with the diagnosis, management plan & settings, nothing more. He fixed Van’s melasma & the rest is history☄️
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👉In store: working on AI for ‘virtual Davin’, namely programmed AI bot for Q and A, coupled with AI video & virtual voice. Bot Q & A will be released in the next few weeks, virtual video & voice within 6 months (hopefully)
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📖Bookings: handful of appointments available in Sydney every month, expression of interest via melasmaclinic.com.au 
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🏡The Melasma Clinic
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
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#davinlim #drdavinlim #themelasmaclinic #dermatologistsydney #dermatologyclinicsydney

Davin Lim is a technician & co-founder. He comes up with the diagnosis, management plan & settings, nothing more. He fixed Van’s melasma & the rest is history☄️
.
👉In store: working on AI for ‘virtual Davin’, namely programmed AI bot for Q and A, coupled with AI video & virtual voice. Bot Q & A will be released in the next few weeks, virtual video & voice within 6 months (hopefully)
.
📖Bookings: handful of appointments available in Sydney every month, expression of interest via melasmaclinic.com.au
.
🏡The Melasma Clinic
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
.
#davinlim #drdavinlim #themelasmaclinic #dermatologistsydney #dermatologyclinicsydney
...

IPL is awesome for non-melasma pigmentation but is often a cause of flare ups for melasma pigment. The reason is the excessive heat that is often associated with IPL. Exception to this rule is the use of exact filters in correct pulse widths with co-prescription of pigment inhibitors- medical therapy. It can be done, but the threshold for error is very thin💯
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👉This patient: treated with old fashioned dermal toning with nano-lasers, Spectra by Lutronic, in addition to medical therapy
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📆👉Timeline: 10 weeks. Pico lasers offer faster resolution, if performed correctly. 
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Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
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#drdavinlim #IPL #IPLtreatment #melasma #melasmacure #melasmasurvivor #melasmaskincare #themelasmaclinic #sydneydermatologist

IPL is awesome for non-melasma pigmentation but is often a cause of flare ups for melasma pigment. The reason is the excessive heat that is often associated with IPL. Exception to this rule is the use of exact filters in correct pulse widths with co-prescription of pigment inhibitors- medical therapy. It can be done, but the threshold for error is very thin💯
.
👉This patient: treated with old fashioned dermal toning with nano-lasers, Spectra by Lutronic, in addition to medical therapy
.
📆👉Timeline: 10 weeks. Pico lasers offer faster resolution, if performed correctly.
.
Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney🇦🇺
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#drdavinlim #IPL #IPLtreatment #melasma #melasmacure #melasmasurvivor #melasmaskincare #themelasmaclinic #sydneydermatologist
...

Dermamelan & Cosmelan peels have arrived 💯
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👉Novel peels: are a good option for primarily epidermal melasma and superficial pigmentation, albeit a downtime of 6-12 days 
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👌🏻Employ peels based upon diagnostic features of pigment and allowed recovery of the patient 
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🏡The Melasma Clinic Sydney-Brisbane 🇦🇺
#melasma #cosmelan2 #cosmelanmask #cosmelanpeel

Dermamelan & Cosmelan peels have arrived 💯
.
👉Novel peels: are a good option for primarily epidermal melasma and superficial pigmentation, albeit a downtime of 6-12 days
.
👌🏻Employ peels based upon diagnostic features of pigment and allowed recovery of the patient
.
🏡The Melasma Clinic Sydney-Brisbane 🇦🇺
#melasma #cosmelan2 #cosmelanmask #cosmelanpeel
...

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Can dermal melasma be treated with just skin care?

Gains are minimal if any as pigment is deep. Skin care however is still first line as it can reduce the side effects of lasers, especially if they are employed in higher settings to treat dermal pigmentation.

pico laser for melasma

What topicals can you add to treat dermal melasma?

HQ is the standard, however it has to be used under supervision or side effects are not uncommon. Your dermatologist will guide you. Other agents include- 

A sensible option is to add specific antioxidants to your current first line topical therapy. 

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How to treat PIGMENTATION

If I can identify the cause of pigmentation, chances are I can treat it. This can only be achieved with careful real time examination…

Can chemical peels such as Cosmelan treat dermal melasma?

Novel peels such as Cosmelan, Dermamelan or the Vi Precision Peel can be effective in some cases of melasma, however they are dismally ineffective in dermal melasma. The depth of penetration is too shallow to target deep pigment. 

Deep peels such as phenol peels can be effective in some cases, however they have the risk of permanent hypopigmentation.

cosmelan for melasma

Tell me more about RF microneedling & dermal melasma

RF microneedling with devices such as the Potenza or Sylfirm X can be considered in dermal melasma. They work by-

  1. Strengthening the basement membrane of skin to reduce the dropout of pigment into the dermal layers. 
  2. Modulation of blood vessels 
  3. Exfoliation of pigment & increased absorption of topicals (minimal effects).
  4. Destruction of older cells (senescence) that play a role in cellular cross talk. 

RF microneedling is not our first line treatment of dermal melasma. In exceptional cases, it may be effective. 

  • RF microneedling requires 8-10 sessions over 12 months
  • Failure rate for dermal melasma is high, over 80%

Will supplements help with dermal melasma?

There are two sensible supplements that you can try, they can have marginal effects in some cases. Given the lack of side effects & low cost, we encourage patients to supplement their photoprotection with – 

  1. Polypodium leucotomos extract (PLE). It can provide additional pigment clearances & is most useful as adjunctive therapy. The dose is 480 mg polypodium twice a day.
  2. Oral glutathione at a dose of 250 to 500 mg daily. This acts as an antioxidant & skin

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What is the difference between ochronosis & dermal melasma?

It can be tricky to tell the difference between the two, but here is a quick summary. 

Exogenous ochronosis is primarily due to over use of hydroquinone. It looks like dermal melasma but has several distinct differences, including-

  • Clinically evident spots & dots that are raised (caviar spots) 
  • Dermatoscopic signs of ‘worm bodies’ or squiggles
  • Histological features of banana shaped bodies in the upper dermis

Your dermatologist can tell the difference upon close dermatoscopic examination. A biopsy is useful if in doubt.

What conditions can look like dermal melasma?

Many conditions can resemble dermal melasma, however a dermatologist can usually tell the difference. They include-

do i have dermal melasma

Can dermal melasma be diagnosed virtually or via photos?

It is hit and miss. Photos can give some idea of the type of pigment & the depth, but a dermatoscopic examination in real time is best. The accuracy of photos are around 40-50%, whilst a 10x magnificent polarized light examination carries over 90% accuracy.

What is the cost for treating dermal melasma?

A lot. Unlike standard melasma, a dermatologist is involved. This adds to the cost of therapy. As a guide, lasers by a dermatologist range between $890 to $990 per session. Factor in 6 to 10 sessions & the cost adds up. In contrast, lasers by our physician & nurses are ¼ the costs of a dermatologist. 

*We aim to run a laser clinic in a public hospital in 2026/2027, this is under the umbrella of clinical research, limiting patient contact with a senior dermatologist. This may enable patients to undertake cost effective (free) treatments.

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A SummaryTreating dermal melasma

Dr Davin Lim | Dermatologist
The Melasma Clinic, Brisbane | Sydney

Our ethos is to treat the most challenging cases of melasma & pigmentation as we live for the before & afters- namely achieving almost impossible taste & delivering outstanding results. The rate limiting factor is not our technology, dedication or hunger for research, it is a matter of economics as the decision is often financial. Put simply, it is you, the patient that has to make that decision of cost vs benefit. 

Dermal melasma is challenging, I am usually the one involved in treatment (as I push the envelope), which means I carry the duty of hand holding the patient, namely to cop the hyperpigmentation, resistance, hypopigmentation & more. It can be done, but it is not easy & the results in truth are not predictable.

To shift dermal melasma I use a step up approach, moderate laser settings pushing to off label higher settings, always in combination with medical therapy in a rotational manner coupled with Rejuran injectables, mTOR modulators, RFM devices & thulium 1927 fractional lasers to remodel the dermis. 

Here is the checklist if you are contemplating treating dermal melasma-

  • It take a minimum of 6 months to see results
  • It may take 18 months or longer to remodel your skin
  • Treatment may result in transient hyperpigmentation often lasting weeks to months
  • If you have any amount of sun exposure, it can reverse months of progress
  • Failure is not uncommon
  • Success is seen in some