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Dermal melasma treatment
- Up to 20% of melasma can be resistant to medical therapy
- Dermal or deep melasma is harder to shift compared to superficial melasma
- Medical management entails vascular modulators & prescription topicals.
- Treatment options include specific non-ablative lasers & off label pico lasers
- Treatments are aimed at rebuilding the deeper structure of skin
- It often takes 6 to 12 months or longer for improvements to be seen
- Not all cases respond to laser
The primary aim of dermal melasma treatment is to remodel the deeper layers of skin. This often takes 12 to 18 months to achieve. Lasers & injectables provide the best methods to achieve this.
What is dermal melasma?
Dermal melasma refers to deep pigmentation that lies below the layer of skin called the epidermis. Contrary to belief, most forms of melasma are mixed; namely epidermal & dermal. Dermal melasma refers to when the majority of pigment is located in the dermis. It has special significance as you will find out shortly.
Why is it harder to treat?
As pigmentation is deep, this form of melasma is-
- Out of reach to superficial lasers & chemical peels such as Dermelan & Cosmelan.
- Deep pigment requires your immune system to carry away pigment, as compared to superficial pigmentation that can be exfoliated.
- Dermal melasma requires special lasers in particular wavelengths to target deep pigmentation. Not all lasers are capable of penetrating into the deeper layers of skin.
- Dermal melasma requires remodeling of the dermis. This often takes months to years to achieve.
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How do I know if I have dermal melasma?
Diagnosis is tricky, so be guided by your dermatologist. Deep dermal melasma can be diagnosed via 3 ways-
Clinically: a keen eye can pick the difference between mixed & primarily dermal melasma. The latter is gray, the form is brown-gray, whilst primarily epidermal melasma is brown.
Dermatoscopically: is the best way to diagnose dermal pigmentation. Gray dots & pigment dropout can be seen with a 10X polarizing microscope.
Woods light examination: is an old fashioned method, blue light highlights superficial pigment, deeper pigment is not visible.
Biopsy: is the last line, but is super useful to exclude exogenous pigment-ochronosis.
Your clinician should not label you as dermal melasma unless the above criteria are met as superficial melasma can also be resistant to treatment.
What is the difference between resistant melasma & dermal melasma?
It is complex, but- dermal melasma is usually resistant to treatment, whilst mixed melasma can also be resistant to treatment. Confused? Read more.
Factors that may contribute to ‘resistance’ (as opposed to true dermal melasma) include-
- Failure to initiate medical therapy for melasma. Medical therapy is provided by a dermatologist. This includes prescription topicals & systemics as well as tailored peeling or laser programs.
- Sun protection. This is the cornerstone of melasma management. Correct sun protection, correct sunscreen, correct application amount & frequency is pivotal to managing melasma. This is the biggest factor overlooked by patients.
- Accidental sun exposure. The sensitivity of melasma is such that the smallest amount of light can flare up pigment. 10 minutes of unprotected exposure can reverse vigilance for the whole month.
- Heat & other sources of IR or infrared radiation. Especially in cooks, both occupation & domestic. Other sources include saunas & hot yoga.
- Inability to initiate, comply or tolerate medical therapy. This entails correct topical use as well as other adjunctive therapy. One can only lead a horse to water.
Dermal melasma is often resistant to treatment, however the clinician should NOT label it as ‘dermal’ unless the depth of pigmentation is known.
Hori, faded (not completely) in only 2 sessions with Picosure Pro
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👉End point> Stippled frosting focally over my usual end point of gray/oedema. More aggressive settings give faster clearance, albeit higher risks of post inflammatory hyperpigmentation
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👉Ideally 2 more sessions
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Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney,
Australia🇦🇺
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#melasmaclinic #hori #horinaevustreatment #drdavinlim #sydneydermatologist #pigmentationclinic

Hori, faded (not completely) in only 2 sessions with Picosure Pro
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👉End point> Stippled frosting focally over my usual end point of gray/oedema. More aggressive settings give faster clearance, albeit higher risks of post inflammatory hyperpigmentation
.
👉Ideally 2 more sessions
.
Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney,
Australia🇦🇺
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#melasmaclinic #hori #horinaevustreatment #drdavinlim #sydneydermatologist #pigmentationclinic
Pigment is a glow distractor
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👉Understanding the level of pigment > first step in optimizing your outcome
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👉Match a wavelength to the level > predictable outcome
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👉Match an ‘ingredient’ to pigment output > better outcome
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👉Match an injectable to the level > the icing on the cake
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👉Reducing UV & visible light > an essential step
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😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney, 🇦🇺
Australia
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#melasmaclinic #melasma #drdavinlim #sydneydermatologist #pigmentation

Pigment is a glow distractor
.
👉Understanding the level of pigment > first step in optimizing your outcome
.
👉Match a wavelength to the level > predictable outcome
.
👉Match an ‘ingredient’ to pigment output > better outcome
.
👉Match an injectable to the level > the icing on the cake
.
👉Reducing UV & visible light > an essential step
.
😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney, 🇦🇺
Australia
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#melasmaclinic #melasma #drdavinlim #sydneydermatologist #pigmentation
For melasma, it does not mean the deeper you go, the better the results💯
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👉Superficial peels: slow & steady with glycolic over lactic acid
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👉TCA: outdated, though 8-10% single to double coating can reduce pigment in some cases
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👉Phenol: for recalcitrant cases, with the risk of PIH & long lasting hypo
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👉Novel Peels: probably gives the best results, with a hit rate of around 60+%, best used with medical therapy
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😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney,
Australia🇦🇺
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#tcapeel #cosmelanpeel #viprecisionpeel #chemicalpeel #melasmatreatment #melasmaclinic #drdavinlim #phenolpeel #pigmentation

For melasma, it does not mean the deeper you go, the better the results💯
.
👉Superficial peels: slow & steady with glycolic over lactic acid
.
👉TCA: outdated, though 8-10% single to double coating can reduce pigment in some cases
.
👉Phenol: for recalcitrant cases, with the risk of PIH & long lasting hypo
.
👉Novel Peels: probably gives the best results, with a hit rate of around 60+%, best used with medical therapy
.
😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney,
Australia🇦🇺
.
#tcapeel #cosmelanpeel #viprecisionpeel #chemicalpeel #melasmatreatment #melasmaclinic #drdavinlim #phenolpeel #pigmentation
As with everything medical, advice is based upon probability not possibility, taking into account outliers
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🧴Creams: can flare melasma. More potent creams containing a mix of estrogen, especially estradiol over estriol (acknowledging that estriol is the predominant form in pregnancy) has a higher chance of flares. The greatest risk is in sun exposed areas
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💊HRT tablets / systemic/ patches: Has a higher risk compared to creams. Dose related threshold that depends on individuals. Estradiol has a higher risk compared to estriol
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👉Vaginal Estrogen Creams: risk is very low as systemic absorption is limited
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🤷🏻♂️Non-hormonal estrogen receptor modulators (Emepelle): risk unquantified
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👉💯Tips: avoid creams on sun exposed areas, including face /chest / arms
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👉Are you on HRT, & has your melasma flared up because of it?
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😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney, 🇦🇺
Australia
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#melasma #HRT #hormonereplacement #themelasmaclinic #melasmaclinic #drdavinlim #sydneydermatologist #menopauseclinic #menopause #menopausemelasma

As with everything medical, advice is based upon probability not possibility, taking into account outliers
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🧴Creams: can flare melasma. More potent creams containing a mix of estrogen, especially estradiol over estriol (acknowledging that estriol is the predominant form in pregnancy) has a higher chance of flares. The greatest risk is in sun exposed areas
.
💊HRT tablets / systemic/ patches: Has a higher risk compared to creams. Dose related threshold that depends on individuals. Estradiol has a higher risk compared to estriol
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👉Vaginal Estrogen Creams: risk is very low as systemic absorption is limited
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🤷🏻♂️Non-hormonal estrogen receptor modulators (Emepelle): risk unquantified
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👉💯Tips: avoid creams on sun exposed areas, including face /chest / arms
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👉Are you on HRT, & has your melasma flared up because of it?
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😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney, 🇦🇺
Australia
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#melasma #HRT #hormonereplacement #themelasmaclinic #melasmaclinic #drdavinlim #sydneydermatologist #menopauseclinic #menopause #menopausemelasma
In the past 10 years there has been a tremendous increase in knowledge regarding the cause/s of melasma, enabling better treatments with longer remission times & higher clearances
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👉Peels: are a novel way to reduce pigment. They can be effective in 50-60% of cases. We perform Cosmelan, Dermamelan, Vi Precision, AHAs & Jessner. In some cases they provide a slightly faster clearance rate compared to lasers, however their ‘hit’ rate is not as good, providing devices are dialed in correctly. As per diagram, there are many other pathways to consider when treating melasma pigment 💯
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🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼Sunscreen: correct application overlooked by the majority of patients. This is step on in the algorithm, get this correct before embarking on peels, skin care & lasers
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😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney, 🇦🇺
Australia
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#melasma #cosmelan #chemicalpeelmelasma #themelasmaclinic #melasmaclinic #drdavinlim #sydneydermatologist

In the past 10 years there has been a tremendous increase in knowledge regarding the cause/s of melasma, enabling better treatments with longer remission times & higher clearances
.
👉Peels: are a novel way to reduce pigment. They can be effective in 50-60% of cases. We perform Cosmelan, Dermamelan, Vi Precision, AHAs & Jessner. In some cases they provide a slightly faster clearance rate compared to lasers, however their ‘hit’ rate is not as good, providing devices are dialed in correctly. As per diagram, there are many other pathways to consider when treating melasma pigment 💯
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🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼Sunscreen: correct application overlooked by the majority of patients. This is step on in the algorithm, get this correct before embarking on peels, skin care & lasers
.
😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney, 🇦🇺
Australia
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#melasma #cosmelan #chemicalpeelmelasma #themelasmaclinic #melasmaclinic #drdavinlim #sydneydermatologist
Effectively building & keeping collagen in the upper layers of skin can potentially prevent & treat some forms of pigmentation, especially the ones related to aging. This includes late onset melasma & ‘dermal’ dropout, more common in darker skin types
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👉How to? Topical retinoids can potentially provide very low levels of collagen, more efficient modalities include lasers, RF microneedling (correct depth & settings) as well as HIFU & biostimulatory injectables. The ideal biostimulus depends on the clinical presentation & age of the patient🙌🏼
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😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney,
Australia🇦🇺
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#melasma #melasmaclinic #biostimulator #skin #melasmatreatment #sunscreens #bioremodelling #drdavinlim #dermatologistsydney

Effectively building & keeping collagen in the upper layers of skin can potentially prevent & treat some forms of pigmentation, especially the ones related to aging. This includes late onset melasma & ‘dermal’ dropout, more common in darker skin types
.
👉How to? Topical retinoids can potentially provide very low levels of collagen, more efficient modalities include lasers, RF microneedling (correct depth & settings) as well as HIFU & biostimulatory injectables. The ideal biostimulus depends on the clinical presentation & age of the patient🙌🏼
.
😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
Brisbane | Sydney,
Australia🇦🇺
.
#melasma #melasmaclinic #biostimulator #skin #melasmatreatment #sunscreens #bioremodelling #drdavinlim #dermatologistsydney
90% of CALM or cafe au lait macules can respond to pico or QSL.
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👉This patient: treated with 532 Hollywood Spectra nano laser, sessions spaced 8-10 weeks apart. Anecdotally facial lesions respond better than extra-facial lesions
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😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
The Melasma Clinic
Sydney, Australia🇦🇺
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#spectralaser #lutronic #calmbirthmark #birthmarktreatment #cafeaulaitbirthmark
#birthmarkremoval #drdavinlim #davinlim #sydneydermatologist

90% of CALM or cafe au lait macules can respond to pico or QSL.
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👉This patient: treated with 532 Hollywood Spectra nano laser, sessions spaced 8-10 weeks apart. Anecdotally facial lesions respond better than extra-facial lesions
.
😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
The Melasma Clinic
Sydney, Australia🇦🇺
.
#spectralaser #lutronic #calmbirthmark #birthmarktreatment #cafeaulaitbirthmark
#birthmarkremoval #drdavinlim #davinlim #sydneydermatologist
🍊Vitamin C is useful, only if your skin can tolerate it. Why? High bioavailable vitamin C has an acidic formulation with a low pH, much lower than the already acidic environment of skin. This can lead to irritation, which means more potent pigment correctors can’t be applied
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👉Formulations: L -ascorbic acid, preferably in the morning under make up & a thick layer of tinted sunscreen
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👉Tips: concentrate on getting your sunscreen application correct before product selection, 90% of melasma sufferers haven’t got this step correct
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😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
The Melasma Clinic
Sydney, Australia🇦🇺
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#melasma #vitaminc #ascorbicacid #vitamincskincare #themelasmaclinic #sydneydermatologist #drdavinlim #themelasmaclinic

🍊Vitamin C is useful, only if your skin can tolerate it. Why? High bioavailable vitamin C has an acidic formulation with a low pH, much lower than the already acidic environment of skin. This can lead to irritation, which means more potent pigment correctors can’t be applied
.
👉Formulations: L -ascorbic acid, preferably in the morning under make up & a thick layer of tinted sunscreen
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👉Tips: concentrate on getting your sunscreen application correct before product selection, 90% of melasma sufferers haven’t got this step correct
.
😎Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist
The Melasma Clinic
Sydney, Australia🇦🇺
.
#melasma #vitaminc #ascorbicacid #vitamincskincare #themelasmaclinic #sydneydermatologist #drdavinlim #themelasmaclinic
Can dermal melasma be treated with just skin care?
Gains are minimal if any as pigment is deep. Skin care however is still first line as it can reduce the side effects of lasers, especially if they are employed in higher settings to treat dermal pigmentation.
What topicals can you add to treat dermal melasma?
HQ is the standard, however it has to be used under supervision or side effects are not uncommon. Your dermatologist will guide you. Other agents include-
- Cyspera- Cysteamine
- Meladerm, Melacream
- Ascorbic acid 15%, vitamin E, ferulic acid, kojic acid
- Azelaic acid
- Niacinamide
- Botanicals such as bearberry extract & licorice root
A sensible option is to add specific antioxidants to your current first line topical therapy.


Dr Davin Lim
645K subscribersHow to treat PIGMENTATION
If I can identify the cause of pigmentation, chances are I can treat it. This can only be achieved with careful real time examination…
Can chemical peels such as Cosmelan treat dermal melasma?
Novel peels such as Cosmelan, Dermamelan or the Vi Precision Peel can be effective in some cases of melasma, however they are dismally ineffective in dermal melasma. The depth of penetration is too shallow to target deep pigment.
Deep peels such as phenol peels can be effective in some cases, however they have the risk of permanent hypopigmentation.
Tell me more about RF microneedling & dermal melasma
RF microneedling with devices such as the Potenza or Sylfirm X can be considered in dermal melasma. They work by-
- Strengthening the basement membrane of skin to reduce the dropout of pigment into the dermal layers.
- Modulation of blood vessels
- Exfoliation of pigment & increased absorption of topicals (minimal effects).
- Destruction of older cells (senescence) that play a role in cellular cross talk.
RF microneedling is not our first line treatment of dermal melasma. In exceptional cases, it may be effective.
- RF microneedling requires 8-10 sessions over 12 months
- Failure rate for dermal melasma is high, over 80%
Will supplements help with dermal melasma?
There are two sensible supplements that you can try, they can have marginal effects in some cases. Given the lack of side effects & low cost, we encourage patients to supplement their photoprotection with –
- Polypodium leucotomos extract (PLE). It can provide additional pigment clearances & is most useful as adjunctive therapy. The dose is 480 mg polypodium twice a day.
- Oral glutathione at a dose of 250 to 500 mg daily. This acts as an antioxidant & skin
What is the difference between ochronosis & dermal melasma?
It can be tricky to tell the difference between the two, but here is a quick summary.
Exogenous ochronosis is primarily due to over use of hydroquinone. It looks like dermal melasma but has several distinct differences, including-
- Clinically evident spots & dots that are raised (caviar spots)
- Dermatoscopic signs of ‘worm bodies’ or squiggles
- Histological features of banana shaped bodies in the upper dermis
Your dermatologist can tell the difference upon close dermatoscopic examination. A biopsy is useful if in doubt.
What conditions can look like dermal melasma?
Many conditions can resemble dermal melasma, however a dermatologist can usually tell the difference. They include-
- Ochronosis due to overuse of HQ.
- Hori naevi are more defined but can coexist with melasma
- Post inflammatory hyperpigmentation
- Ashy dermatosis
- Pigmentation demarcation lines
- Ota naevi (bilateral)
Can dermal melasma be diagnosed virtually or via photos?
It is hit and miss. Photos can give some idea of the type of pigment & the depth, but a dermatoscopic examination in real time is best. The accuracy of photos are around 40-50%, whilst a 10x magnificent polarized light examination carries over 90% accuracy.
What is the cost for treating dermal melasma?
A lot. Unlike standard melasma, a dermatologist is involved. This adds to the cost of therapy. As a guide, lasers by a dermatologist range between $890 to $990 per session. Factor in 6 to 10 sessions & the cost adds up. In contrast, lasers by our physician & nurses are ¼ the costs of a dermatologist.
*We aim to run a laser clinic in a public hospital in 2026/2027, this is under the umbrella of clinical research, limiting patient contact with a senior dermatologist. This may enable patients to undertake cost effective (free) treatments.
More of our mostFrequently asked questions
Why is low contrast dermal melasma super hard to treat?
What about microneedling for dermal melasma?
What about Fraxel for dermal melasma?
What about Rejuran for dermal melasma?
What about PRP for dermal melasma?
Can diet or foods play a role in dermal melasma management?
Can LED masks treat dermal melasma?
A SummaryTreating dermal melasma
Dr Davin Lim | Dermatologist
The Melasma Clinic, Brisbane | Sydney
Our ethos is to treat the most challenging cases of melasma & pigmentation as we live for the before & afters- namely achieving almost impossible taste & delivering outstanding results. The rate limiting factor is not our technology, dedication or hunger for research, it is a matter of economics as the decision is often financial. Put simply, it is you, the patient that has to make that decision of cost vs benefit.
Dermal melasma is challenging, I am usually the one involved in treatment (as I push the envelope), which means I carry the duty of hand holding the patient, namely to cop the hyperpigmentation, resistance, hypopigmentation & more. It can be done, but it is not easy & the results in truth are not predictable.
To shift dermal melasma I use a step up approach, moderate laser settings pushing to off label higher settings, always in combination with medical therapy in a rotational manner coupled with Rejuran injectables, mTOR modulators, RFM devices & thulium 1927 fractional lasers to remodel the dermis.
Here is the checklist if you are contemplating treating dermal melasma-
- It take a minimum of 6 months to see results
- It may take 18 months or longer to remodel your skin
- Treatment may result in transient hyperpigmentation often lasting weeks to months
- If you have any amount of sun exposure, it can reverse months of progress
- Failure is not uncommon
- Success is seen in some